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Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Swiftee Road Kill on MinnPost
Comments on an excellent article in MinnPost:
Cases of voter-ID election fraud found 'virtually non-existent'
The US Constitution may not
on August 13, 2012 - 9:09pm.
The US Constitution may not explicitly guarantee it (though since it is mentioned elsewhere, it's probably included as a right that is not to be disparaged by not being explicitly stated).
However, the MINNESOTA Constitution says this:
| ARTICLE VII
| ELECTIVE FRANCHISE
| Section 1. Eligibility; place of voting; ineligible persons.
| Every person 18 years of age or more who has been a citizen of the United States for three months
| and who has resided in the precinct for 30 days next preceding an election shall be entitled to vote
| in that precinct. ...
So, the same as in many other states, we *are* guaranteed the right to vote.
"The right of the citizens of the United States to vote ..."
on August 14, 2012 - 4:01am.
What an ugly and ignorant comment.
Constitution of the United States affirmatively guarantees - four times! - "the right of every citizen to vote" via the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments
- each of which is designed to protect or expand that right against state encroachments.
Guns yes, votes, no.
on August 14, 2012 - 9:14am.
So, the 2nd Amendment grants the "feckless, too mentally disabled or chemically dependent, or simply disconnected" an unfettered right to own guns,
supposedly to protect themselves from our own government, but they have no such right to simply vote for the government of their choice? Talk about your "dirty secrets".
Dirty secrets and finding fraud
on August 13, 2012 - 9:30pm.
"But how do they expect to find any cases of voter impersonation when people are not required to identify themselves?"
Every voter's identity is verified as part of the voter registration process. The fact that you don't show an ID at the poll on election day does not mean you have not been identified. You have to register to vote, and every registration is verified... every single registration. Zero cases of voter impersonation, and 10 cases of in person voter fraud in 12 years NATIONWIDE.
Mr. Swift is actually expressing his own dirty little secret that of many Republicans and conservative: they don't actually believe in democracy. They don't trust it, they don't believe in universal suffrage, and they don't want people who don't vote they way vote... to vote at all.
on August 14, 2012 - 4:51pm.
Having read all the comments, I have to agree with Paul:
“…Mr. Swift is actually expressing his own dirty little secret that of many Republicans and conservative: they don't actually believe in democracy. They don't trust it, they don't believe in universal suffrage, and they don't want people who don't vote they way vote... to vote at all.”
What Mr. Swift alleges is boilerplate right wing hysteria, fueled largely by racism, and perhaps somewhat by other cultural prejudices. Most of his comment is essentially a children's rant against people he doesn't like, and to whom he ascribes quite a few negative characteristics without, of course, any supporting evidence at all.
If significant election fraud were a genuine issue, perhaps voter ID would be a sensible response.
It isn't, and it isn't.
The push for voter ID as a requirement for voting has grown out of right-wing paranoia created to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
The REAL problem, as Paul suggests, is that too many people are voting for candidates of whom Mr. Swift, Mr. Tester, and others of their political persuasion do not approve. Ergo, they must be not only wrong, but criminally deceptive.
A particular shout-out to Adam Minter, who rather conclusively shows that, as is often the case, Mr. Swift doesn't know what he's talking about simply from the standpoint of facts.
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